Vestax CDX05 CD/MP3 Scratch Player with Effects

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Vestax CDX05 CD/MP3 Scratch Player with Effects Review

I just got one of these for a nice price. Kind of a goofy implementation.

No pitch bend when scratch is turned on, even though you have to push down to scratch and don't have to push down to bend. WTF?!

Even worse, the pitch bending by way of the platter (when scratch is off, due to the above idiocy) is cumulative: the longer you rotate, the more the bending increases. So even if you very slowly rotate, eventually you're at the full bend of +/- 10%. Dumb. I can't imagine any justification for that, except that maybe the software programmers took a shortcut and used the exact same code for the wheel as the pitch buttons. It makes mixing counter-intuitive.

50% pitch range is worthless. Should be 20 or 25%. It's already got 100% available, though the pitch resolution goes totally out the window in these ultra pitch modes. Essentially it's got the useable mixing range of an old CDJ-100, since only 6 and 10% work well enough... and the old Pioneer's pitch bending isn't bunk on its wheel.

When used all by itself, pitch resolution is limited to 0.1%. Internally, the firmware and chips are capable of more, but I'm not sure if the fader is. It needs to be at least 0.05% increments at 10% range. There appears to be no limit to resolution that I can tell when the external TTM controller is used.

If the unit is playing, holding the primary cue button does not play from the beginning, rather it just jumps back and stays... even though you hold. I get that tapping the primary cue should reset to it to that point (in Play cue mode), but that's because you released it. If you are already at the primary cue and the music isn't going, you hold cue (to play it), then hit play/pause, and it continues playing. That's very cool, but I don't understand the logic of not allowing this at any point during playblack. I almost wonder if the unit's memory is extremely limited, or something. I think the antishock is only 10 seconds, the 3 alternate cue points have a slight lag at times if you're in another spot, and there's only one loop and sampler... possible memory limitation.

I have not experienced any skipping so far, but I will torture the hell out of it with the subs soon. I had already paid for it when I found out that some units apparently cannot handle bass vibration well.

I only had one problem with reading a disk: an old MP3 dot com non-standard audio CD, back before they became some weird commercialized Napster clone. Numarks and Pioneers read it fine, but that's hardly worth getting in a tizzy over. I've ripped and reburned to try playing it again.

Otherwise, the unit has excellent fidelity for a CD unit, the vinyl filter can be switched on/off on the fly and really does sound more like certain phono cartridges when necessary (ATP on the Numark 5000fX, WL on the PPD01, etc), and the effects are surprisingly useable and production-quality.

I sent some emails to Vestax telling them how to improve the firmware on the 05 & 07 to fix some of its issues. Hopefully they are just software choices the programmers didn't think of and not hardware limitations. We'll see what happens.

Aside from Numark's reliability problems (which aren't slight), the Axis 8's are infinitely more ergonomic for mixing, and compared to the CDX-05 without the TTM thing, arguably not considerably worse for scratching. Unlike the Axis 8, the digital out works all the time and the frequency response is flat from the analog outs: no ramped-up high frequencies.

Update:

Doesn't play Dual Discs (one side DVD, other side CD), but in general many slot loading mechanisms don't. Tray loaders do have some utility, it turns out.

The CDX-05 is about as prone to skipping as the worse of the two Axis 8's I have, which isn't great, but is fairly acceptable. I tested this by physically putting them on top of a sub and cranking it. The other Axis 8 was almost impossible to cause it to skip except when I picked it up and violently shook it for an extended time. That lesser Axis 8 has occasionally been going into random loops or freezing on me lately, which is why I was in the market for another player. That, however, has not been the result of vibration as it occurred even with headphone mixing. If the Vestax is not seriously glitchy during normal usage (won't include playback on top of a subwoofer), then it will have acceptable anti-shock for my purposes.

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